KMO welcomes KunstlerCast host, Duncan Crary, back to the C-Realm to talk about his four-year intellectual apprenticeship which has culiminated in his new book, The KunstlerCast: Conversations with James Howard Kunstler. Duncan extols the virtues of life in Troy, New York, which requires of him neither cell phone or automobile. The conversation turns to the Occupy movement, the Ecovillage Training Center, and, of course, podcasting. KMO concludes the podcast with praise for David Graeber's new book, Debt: The First 5,000 Years. Music by Deertick.